amodman
Mabinog
[M:395]
The Nightcrawler
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Post by amodman on Feb 15, 2005 1:20:20 GMT -5
Really, historical fiction isn't my thing . I'd reccomend Song of Albion to ANY fantasy lover, it's about the best fantasy I've read, Pendragon is bit more specified in tastes...and let's not speak of Dragon King...but when do we ever get some more straight up fantasy from this guy?!
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Post by twyrch on Feb 15, 2005 10:02:52 GMT -5
Really, historical fiction isn't my thing . I'd reccomend Song of Albion to ANY fantasy lover, it's about the best fantasy I've read, Pendragon is bit more specified in tastes...and let's not speak of Dragon King...but when do we ever get some more straight up fantasy from this guy?! I have asked that question on these boards a couple times as well. I feel like he's gotten into a "rut"... As he studied Celtic Mythology to come up with Arthur and the SOA Trilogy, I think he stumbled onto something he liked just as much and just started writing Historical Fiction about the Christian Religion. Celtic Crusades, Byzantium, Patrick.... *SIGH* He was SOOO good at the Fantasy writing, I wish he'd get back to that as well.... even if he wrote in both genres for a while... just to throw us a bone or something....
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Post by Daae on Feb 15, 2005 13:17:24 GMT -5
I personally have found my tastes in reading drifting farther from fantasy, and more towards historical fiction. So I really enjoy his historical fiction, but then, I think historical fiction was my first love. I've always enjoyed fantasy, but didn't really start reading it until middle school. *shrugs*
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Post by twyrch on Feb 15, 2005 14:18:22 GMT -5
I personally have found my tastes in reading drifting farther from fantasy, and more towards historical fiction. So I really enjoy his historical fiction, but then, I think historical fiction was my first love. I've always enjoyed fantasy, but didn't really start reading it until middle school. *shrugs* He could still write Historical Fiction... He's good at it. I just wish he'd mix it up a bit.
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Post by dinadan on Feb 15, 2005 20:32:18 GMT -5
I'd like to see him do a time travel book...maybe something involving 19th Century England--perhaps even touching on Jack the Ripper. Something gothic, maybe. It'd be a new direction for SRL, but it might be worthwile.
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Post by twyrch on Feb 16, 2005 8:57:42 GMT -5
I'd like to see him do a time travel book...maybe something involving 19th Century England--perhaps even touching on Jack the Ripper. Something gothic, maybe. It'd be a new direction for SRL, but it might be worthwile. Ooooooo! That would be good. He kind of did that in the Celtic Crusades by having the main character (forgot his name!) reading tomes held secret within the Cele de' and eventually discovering he was reading his family history.... I loved the idea of the Cairn as a portal in SOA... maybe he could find a different portal... one that is only active in a certain alignment of stars or something.... Interesting thought....
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Post by Riothamus on Feb 16, 2005 9:56:31 GMT -5
Hasn't Lawhead stated...somewhere...that he doesn't really see much difference between historical fiction, science fiction, and fantasy? (I believe it's in one of the interviews on his site.) In his mind he may be writing fantasy all along; Patrick might be as much fairy-tale as historical novel in his mind. Just a thought.
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Post by twyrch on Feb 16, 2005 10:11:00 GMT -5
Hasn't Lawhead stated...somewhere...that he doesn't really see much difference between historical fiction, science fiction, and fantasy? (I believe it's in one of the interviews on his site.) In his mind he may be writing fantasy all along; Patrick might be as much fairy-tale as historical novel in his mind. Just a thought. He might.... Just I know Patrick means more to him than a "fairy tale"... He was asked about that book recently and he said that some of the events in the book are arguable, but he has it on good authority that are accurate. He spent a lot of time researching it. I don't know... He spends far too much time researching his "historical fiction" for it to be simple fantasy.... Granted, SOA had a lot of research put into it... but I don't think he poured historical facts into it like he did Byxantium, the Celtic Crusades and Patrick. Just my opinion....
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Post by dinadan on Feb 16, 2005 10:43:47 GMT -5
There is a difference between researching "culture" to make the abiance of the book more authentic, and researching historical details to include as part of the story.
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Post by Riothamus on Feb 17, 2005 10:15:49 GMT -5
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Well, I didn't say that it's simple fantasy. I said that it might be as much a fairy-tale as it is Historical Fiction. And what I meant by that is that, for all the "detail" (which, as dinadan points out, can be as much for ambiance as for accuracy,) Lawhead could honestly think of Pactrick as a fantasy--a Historical Fantasy, rooted in reality, but not neccessarily reflective of it. So that he could totally believe that the facts of his story are correct, and at the same time think of it as a fantasy in the spirit of the "Pendragon" cycle.
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Post by dinadan on Feb 17, 2005 10:30:24 GMT -5
As I said, I'd really like to see him play around with time travel; that way, he could indulge his penchant for historical fiction, while at the same time giving us all something we want--more fantasy magical action.
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Post by twyrch on Feb 17, 2005 17:20:16 GMT -5
Well, I didn't say that it's simple fantasy. I said that it might be as much a fairy-tale as it is Historical Fiction. And what I meant by that is that, for all the "detail" (which, as dinadan points out, can be as much for ambiance as for accuracy,) Lawhead could honestly think of Pactrick as a fantasy--a Historical Fantasy, rooted in reality, but not neccessarily reflective of it. So that he could totally believe that the facts of his story are correct, and at the same time think of it as a fantasy in the spirit of the "Pendragon" cycle. Ahh.... Ok. I guess I misunderstood you. I can see how he might consider it that way....
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amodman
Mabinog
[M:395]
The Nightcrawler
Posts: 226
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Post by amodman on Feb 18, 2005 23:34:17 GMT -5
Well, we see a difference between fantasy and historical fiction . He's so talented, I just wish he'd write more in my favorite genre !
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Post by Riothamus on Feb 19, 2005 10:32:41 GMT -5
I see what you're saying; just pointing out Lawhead's possible train of thought. Dinadan's idea is a good one (only I would leave out Jack the Ripper--he's gotten enough publicity. )
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Post by dinadan on Feb 19, 2005 10:34:52 GMT -5
I see what you're saying; just pointing out Lawhead's possible train of thought. Dinadan's idea is a good one (only I would leave out Jack the Ripper--he's gotten enough publicity. ) Granted, he might have had lots of publicity, but I bet that we'd all be excited over what Lawhead could do with a Ripper story. Although, I don't have my heart set on this, I'm just saying SRL could do something to blur the distintinctions of his genres even further--and maybe we'll get some people around here who are tired of historical fiction back on board.
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