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Post by dinadan on Apr 21, 2005 20:26:33 GMT -5
alibris and barnes and noble have some of his books on their websites.
Also, I think you mean Prester John--he's a legendary Christian king of medieval africa...I found it fascinating that Williams identified him as a Grail king.
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Post by calixar on Apr 22, 2005 19:06:03 GMT -5
I've got all of Williams' novels, as well as his complete Arthurian poetry... a single volume set including the work done by CSLewis.
War in Heaven was the first of his I read. My own book, War of Grace, treats it as history.
Williams did not originate the idea that there may be a connection between Prester John and the Fisher King. Mine features a character called Jonathan Fischer...
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Post by dinadan on Apr 25, 2005 9:29:50 GMT -5
Good on you, Calixar. The world needs more people familiar with Williams.
So, you said Williams wasn't the first to identify PJ with the Grail King...do you know who was? (I'm curious)
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Post by calixar on Apr 27, 2005 13:32:30 GMT -5
Wolfram von Eschenbach is the first known to have connected the Grail King and Prester John, in Parzival, written about 50 years after the so-called "Prester John Letters."
Feirefiz, Parzival's half-brother, marries one of the Grail Maidens (Repanse) and has a son named John, who goes on to become the "King of India."
Later writers move the relationship around, making Prester John into Parzival's father instead of nephew, and so-forth. Whether he is directly identified as the Fisher King or as a relative of him, there has been a bloodline connection between the two characters for nearly 1000 years.
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Post by dinadan on Apr 27, 2005 19:05:36 GMT -5
Interesting. Wolfram's Parzival has been on my "to read" list for a while--I mean, the orginal, not a prose translation. I didn't realize that Wolfram had connected the two. Very, very interesting.
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Post by Riothamus on May 8, 2005 10:19:10 GMT -5
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Post by dinadan on May 8, 2005 11:07:57 GMT -5
I saw it last night during ABC's showing of Harry Potter 2. Very, very great looking.
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Post by twyrch on May 8, 2005 11:16:48 GMT -5
OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! *Waits in anxious anticipation* I can't wait for this movie to be released. So much better than the BBC version, from what I can see. ;D |
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Post by Riothamus on May 8, 2005 20:32:10 GMT -5
Heh. I'm a little worried, myself; the first half is well nigh perfect, but the action-action-action finale seems very much out of keeping with Lewis' vision. But I'll have to wait and see. The colours are lovely, though.
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Post by Inkling on May 13, 2005 12:05:36 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry about the action completely dominating the film....the film-makers have stated that their movie will be (relatively) gore-free. It is based on children's books after all! I for one, love the actors they have chosen for their characters so far(guess I'll have to wait for the actual movie to see if they can actually ACT, but hey...)....the White Witch is just...perfectly creepy....muaha
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Post by dinadan on May 16, 2005 12:14:58 GMT -5
Tilda Swinborne (is that more or less how her name is spelled--again, I'm a little busy and I'm not bothering to double check with imdb, so sorry) is insane creepy. Her androgynous appeareance--for example, in Constantine--combined with a really just damned odd stage presence makes her a perfect Jadis in my opinion.
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Post by Inkling on May 17, 2005 17:09:47 GMT -5
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Post by Elassa on May 17, 2005 23:16:25 GMT -5
OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! *Waits in anxious anticipation* I can't wait for this movie to be released. So much better than the BBC version, from what I can see. ;D It looks like I'm not the only one exci.......*sneezes* excited about this movie. I keep sneezing. Gah! My nose hates me. |
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Post by Inkling on May 18, 2005 10:42:10 GMT -5
<hands Saphyre a Kleenex>I hate that. Almost as bad as hiccups for three days in a row.
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Post by Elassa on May 18, 2005 11:06:40 GMT -5
Thanks. I think I've got a cold of some sort.
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