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Post by twyrch on Feb 18, 2005 17:35:25 GMT -5
Yeah, it wasn't meant terribly seriously...it was more a "here's a humorous way to express my general frustration." I think you got your point across. I posted a similar statement on the Terry Brooks forum. That really got people riled up over there..... ;D
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Post by deusXmachina on Feb 18, 2005 21:44:51 GMT -5
I'm willing to wait. Largely because I do believe we could see it within the next year and a half. Hopefully, but as long as it takes is ok. It's worth doing right.
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Post by dinadan on Feb 18, 2005 23:00:16 GMT -5
Granted. I mean, I know Frank Herbert did the same sort of thing with his DUNE books--but he died before finishing. If Martin did that...oh, I cannot even stomach the thought.
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Post by deusXmachina on Feb 19, 2005 4:33:34 GMT -5
Yeah, but Herberts son is going to finish the job. IMHO, Brian Herbert is a more entertaining writer than his father. I have never been able to read any of Frank Herberts books, but the ones by Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson are absolutley enthralling.
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Post by dinadan on Feb 19, 2005 9:22:03 GMT -5
Oh no...I detest the Brian H and KJA Dune books because they are not anything at all like Dune. I read the first two fo the "prequel trilogy" and by the end of the second one I just decided to stop--and that rarely happens to me in a series. I'm usually compelled to finish. But, they took the genius that was Dune and turned it into stock sci-fi--they robbed it of what made Dune special (that is, all the philosophy and ecology). I'm sorry that you don't like Frank; that almost wounds my soul. But, to each his own.
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Post by ducklauncher on Feb 21, 2005 2:34:18 GMT -5
As much as I love Dune....I have this thing about derailed threads ><
I wasn't convinced asoiaf was worthy of its reputation until I read SoS. It was plenty good before then, but....That book was amazing.
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Post by twyrch on Feb 21, 2005 9:13:58 GMT -5
As much as I love Dune....I have this thing about derailed threads >< I wasn't convinced asoiaf was worthy of its reputation until I read SoS. It was plenty good before then, but....That book was amazing. I guess I haven't heard much about that.... ASoIaF is compared to SoS?
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Post by dinadan on Feb 21, 2005 10:51:47 GMT -5
SoS (A Storm of Swords) is the most recent book in the ASoFaI (A Song of Fire and Ice) series by Martin.
Yes, SoS was genius, but I don't think it was better or worse than previous two novels; in fact, some of my favorite parts of the story are in Clash of Kings.
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Post by twyrch on Feb 21, 2005 14:38:46 GMT -5
SoS (A Storm of Swords) is the most recent book in the ASoFaI (A Song of Fire and Ice) series by Martin. Yes, SoS was genius, but I don't think it was better or worse than previous two novels; in fact, some of my favorite parts of the story are in Clash of Kings. Ahh.. My mistake. I thought you were talking about the Sword of Shannara.
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Post by deusXmachina on Feb 21, 2005 16:32:46 GMT -5
LOL, so did I.
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Post by twyrch on Feb 21, 2005 16:36:20 GMT -5
LOL... Old habits die hard I guess.
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Post by ducklauncher on Feb 22, 2005 16:08:17 GMT -5
heh. that didn't even occur to me...
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Post by amodman on Mar 24, 2005 1:17:21 GMT -5
I'm finished up Storm of Swords at the moment. I felt Clash of Kings was a step up from Game of Thrones because the characters had been developed and things flowed a lot smoother. Storm of Swords has been the best one so far, though. The story was just so enthralling. However, the there were two things that pissed me off about SoS. A. The pacing was horrible. There were so many characters you would have these tiny little chapter that just start to get you interested with what's going on with one and then you get cut off right there. It was so frigging annoying. This failing was worst in SoS IMO. B. *SPOILER* Robb's death pissed me off. I saw the foreshadowing (absolute bundles of it), but I didn't think Martin would be so obvious or really even kill Robb because, IMO, the dang story didn't need the complication of Robb's bloody death. I didn't like that Ned died in GoT, but I even praised Martin elsewhere on how he killed a character right for once, unlike other authors. He had set up Robb and everything, but man...bah. Anyways, Song of Ice and Fire is possibly my second favorite fantasy series now, following Song of Albion .
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Post by dinadan on Mar 25, 2005 11:31:07 GMT -5
Rob did have to die so that Bran stands to inherit Winterfell, and also so that Sansa could stay alive (although, since Lady is dead, I'm not sure that she is going to make it--the wolves and the Stark children being so closely tied to one another).
Rob really wasn't going to be a good King In the North; I mean, sure, he was an able commander, but he was not such a great king. He was "too southern" trying to be northern. It wasn't going to work, ever. The hope of the Starks lies with Bran. The hope of the North lies with Jon Snow. And the Fate of the world rests with Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons (and the two men she is going to marry--and I've got bets that one of them is Jon or Bran; also, wouldn't it be awesome to see Bran skinchange into one of the dragons?)
Martin's a genius though. This series really is just about as great as it gets.
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Post by amodman on Mar 25, 2005 18:47:55 GMT -5
I heard a really crazy sounding theory elsewhere, but it actually is an interesting thought (if not likely). The theory was that Jon is actually Rhaegar's son through Lyanna. Points that help support that thought is that it has been mentioned that Arya looks like Lyanna and Jon and Arya look so much alike...so much like Starks, and Ned was always against Robert's obsession with killing the Targaryen children. Crazy, yes, but possible.
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