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Post by pink3elephant on Oct 12, 2005 0:09:23 GMT -5
So I was looking at my mosquito bite, when I was supposed to be studying for bio, and suddenly I was reminded of the movie City Slickers where he wants the guy to suck the venom out of his butt.
So I asked my roomate, "If I had a snake bite in my butt, would you suck it out?"
Taken out of her study mode she has a blank face and says, "Where did you pull that out of? Ummmmmm no I wouldn't. Why would you?"
"Uh, ofcourse I would, why wouldnt' you?"
"Cuz then I would get poison in my mouth and die!"
Wow, I never thought of that. Would you really die?
yeah really random.
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Post by Margim on Oct 12, 2005 8:48:13 GMT -5
Firstly, to the scenario, I would tell my friend to take their bitten but elsewhere. Callous, yes, but I have my pride. Is it worth a life? Mmm.... Yes! In response to the question - I was told some years ago at a reptile park in the Northern Territory of Australia (and remember, we have something like 7 out of the top ten deadliest snakes in the world) that you would not. Poison (ie Romeo and Juliet style drink-from-a-bottle-and-suicide poison) and venom are different things. Venom, to be effective, has to be injected into your bloodstream...although I would recommend against drinking snake venom. I think poison is just plain bad.
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Post by Zeke on Oct 12, 2005 17:27:33 GMT -5
Ya we have the deadliest everything in the land down under but when you suck venom out of a snake bite you spit it out so it is not swalowed
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Post by Elassa on Oct 13, 2005 10:27:07 GMT -5
What Zeke said. You spit it out and no one dies.
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Post by dgan on Oct 14, 2005 1:59:15 GMT -5
Just don't spit it into the previous victim's eyes.....
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Post by Zeke on Oct 15, 2005 4:08:33 GMT -5
I found this info on a spitting cobra so you dont have to do the venom spitting
The Spitting Cobra is most renowned for their infamously remarkable spitting fangs that allow the cobra to actually spray venom accurately into the face and eyes of predators and trampling hoovestock. When the cobra wants to “Spit” or “Spray” its venom at a threat, it “Hoods Up”, aims its open mouth as specialized muscles contract the Venom Gland, forcing the Cobra's Venom out through its fangs.
Spitting cobras are extremely accurate at distances over 10 feet. These scientists believe that the primary function of Spitting cobra fangs is to deter being trampled by antelope hooves. The Cobra is well equipped to spray its painful venom directly into the eyes of potential trampling animals from a safe distance.
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Post by dgan on Oct 15, 2005 4:32:05 GMT -5
ok...so, what if you're bit by a cobra, then someone sucks out the venom and spits it into the spitting cobra's eyes? Does it hurt him or is he immune to his own venom?
this is so interesting....
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Post by chrystalized on Oct 23, 2005 2:36:52 GMT -5
that's an interesting thought about venom in in the eyes of the spitting cobra, I have always wonder what would happen to a snake that bit its tongue. I love where I live, the only snakes we have are harmless, and the the rattlers a bit more inland are so harmless you could be bit but like fifty of them before you felt sick , same with the black widows.
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Post by tinidril on Oct 23, 2005 11:47:12 GMT -5
This is from the FDA website: It doesn't address the question of whether the venom would harm the person giving aide if taken into the mouth. My understanding is that there would have to be an open cavity in a tooth through which the venom could enter your blood. How NOT to Treat a Snakebite
Though US medical professionals may not agree on every aspect of what to do for snakebite first aid, they are nearly unanimous in their views of what not to do. Among their recommendations:
* No ice or any other type of cooling on the bite. Research has shown this to be potentially harmful. * No tourniquets. This cuts blood flow completely and may result in loss of the affected limb. * No electric shock. This method is under study and has yet to be proven effective. It could harm the victim. * No incisions in the wound. Such measures have not been proven useful and may cause further injury.
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Post by Zeke on Oct 23, 2005 20:14:42 GMT -5
in the event of snake bite you simply wrap a bandage around the limb to slow the spread of the poison as far as I know sucking the bite is not overly effective. another interesting point is that the poison does not usually flow through the blood but through the layer of fat just under the skin
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