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Post by Child of Immanuel on Apr 9, 2005 8:00:29 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that potatoes were native to Ireland... where the heck do they come from then?
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Post by dinadan on Apr 9, 2005 9:32:22 GMT -5
Potatoes are actually native to the Americas....in fact, every variety of potato that exists, except for the sweet potato (which is native to the carribean), were bred and developed by the Incas...
I only know this because in my epistemology class we read this paper on the history of the potato.
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Post by Riothamus on Apr 11, 2005 9:00:32 GMT -5
Yep, and that is why Lawhead had to remove every reference to potatoes he could find in the Pendragon Cycle and convert them to onions, or something of that sort. Although the little fellas still pop up on my edition of Merlin....
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Post by dinadan on Apr 11, 2005 13:46:35 GMT -5
My edition of Merlin as well; to me, it was good example of how a boy from the American midwest, despite all his training and love of things Cetlic, could still make that kind of slip--after all, what kind of feast doesn't have potatoes  ? |
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Post by JestersTear1 on May 4, 2005 4:51:02 GMT -5
I hope he keeps the mysticism of Robin Of Sherwood in the new novels. It really set the TV show apart from all the Hollywood rubbish that has been churned out over the years. And the Clannad music was great too  |
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Post by scothia on May 5, 2005 21:40:20 GMT -5
I do hope SRL continues the legend and makes Robin the Saxon hero he was. Hey, Celts aren't the only ones with exciting histories and rich cultural heritage. They've just enjoyed being trendy for the past decade or so, that's all.  Sharon |
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Post by Inkling on May 6, 2005 15:13:49 GMT -5
I don't think that Lawhead would distort the facts of a story merely so he could exercise his love of things Celt. If there actually are facts pointing to a celtic Robin Hood, I'm always open to hearing them. But I wouldn't mind if he tells the story in it's more traditional telling, maybe with a couple Celtic side-stuff thrown in. Heck, I'm almost to the point where I don't care what he does....JUST LET ME READ IT!!!! and I like potatoes... ;D
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Post by dinadan on May 6, 2005 15:17:29 GMT -5
"Po-ta-toes. boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew?"
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Post by Inkling on May 6, 2005 15:32:32 GMT -5
LOL! I love that quote...
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Post by dinadan on May 6, 2005 15:33:43 GMT -5
The quote itself isn't funny...it's more the just absolutely matter-of-fact way in which poor Sam says it; as if he honestly can't believe any creature had never heard of a potato.
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Post by dinadan on May 6, 2005 15:37:15 GMT -5
I do hope SRL continues the legend and makes Robin the Saxon hero he was. Hey, Celts aren't the only ones with exciting histories and rich cultural heritage. They've just enjoyed being trendy for the past decade or so, that's all. Sharon The Saxons had their time in the limelight; the cultural history of the early 19th century held that it was the heritage of the Saxons that enabled the English to be superior in self-government (unlike those wild, Catholic, Celts--that is, Irish, Welsh, and the French who were, by virture of their Celtic heritage, lazy, undisciplined, and unfit for good government). |
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Post by Inkling on May 6, 2005 15:38:44 GMT -5
The quote itself isn't funny...it's more the just absolutely matter-of-fact way in which poor Sam says it; as if he honestly can't believe any creature had never heard of a potato. I almost feel bad for Gollum; getting lectured by a disgusted hobbit like that... |
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Post by dgan on May 7, 2005 3:55:25 GMT -5
I don't think that Lawhead would distort the facts of a story merely so he could exercise his love of things Celt. I have to think that SRL, at least in his writing, has a love for the history of the land. Celtic influence is such a driving factor in that history, it is natural for him to keep it close, but I think he keeps it relavant. I think SRL prides himself too much on his ability to present the general historical accuracy of the era to go overboard. That being said, he is extremely bold in his character development - it is fiction for a reason. I shouldn't be trying to convey a thought at this time of the night. OK - translation: I anticipate SRL will hold close to the conventional Saxon establishment believed to exist at the time. However, he can do whatever he wants with the Robin Hood character, Celtic or otherwise. |
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Post by scothia on May 7, 2005 11:24:06 GMT -5
I anticipate SRL will hold close to the conventional Saxon establishment believed to exist at the time. However, he can do whatever he wants with the Robin Hood character, Celtic or otherwise. SRL certainly does have latitude here as he did with Arthur; since neither has ever been historically verified as having existed, he could certainly use speculation and legend to advantage. On the other hand, if the character strays too far from the idealized image, readers might not as enthusiastically embrace him. It's almost easier just to make the whole thing up, á la SoA. |
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Post by calixar on May 7, 2005 12:24:25 GMT -5
Actually, not only is "Robin Hood" historically verifiable, there are multiple Robin Hoods. It appears to have been a title given to the leader of a band of outlaws in the Sherwood area. A couple of them are even on public record as having been arrested and hanged.
The problem is people confusing Robin Hood with Fulke Fitz Warin... this is the "fault" of one of Shakespeare's buddies, Anthony Munday, who merged the two stories for a play he wrote, and created the Maid Marian.
I would hope that SRL forgoes the standard Robin Hood fare and tells the story of Fitz Warin.
But, of course, I'll read it either way.
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