things that make my blood boil

[Zeke]

lovehound i understand what you are saying and I appreciate you taking a risk in letting us know how you feel

Oh and I am one hundred and ten percent non religious!!!!!!

I do have a personal relation ship with Jesus though!!

It is a relationship not a religion.

Like I have said many times before Just 'cause I believe it don't make it true

[chrystalized]

Lovehound, I am a Christian and I ENTIRELY agree with you, christians do tend to jump down peoples throats, Its good intentioned but it is annoying. I find it very difficult not to speak up when someone has an opposing veiw from mine. I have learned though that sometimes it is best to keep the mouth shut.
But what I have to say in oppostion to your veiw is that When I tell someone I am a Christian I am immediatly labelled as a bible thumping Jesus freak. I believe both sides need to settle down a bit.

[dgan]

You have to understand why christians jump down throats. Many believe you are going to hell. They want to warn you, so many of them think that yelling, screaming, insulting, and generally trying to make you feel inferior will save you.

I've found that is not necessarily true. I try to lead by honest example - which means I admit I am not perfect and am probably a worse person than you, but I try to radiate the joy and truth that I feel and know. If someone wants to know more about it, I encourage them to ask.

My philosophy irritates any number of evangelists, and is apparently sinful according to the gospels...or so I am told. I feel it is more effective, though, than alienating myself from everyone so I disagree with them...oh well.

They'll get over it.

[Hinata]

You have to understand why christians jump down throats. Many believe you are going to hell. They want to warn you, so many of them think that yelling, screaming, insulting, and generally trying to make you feel inferior will save you.

Ain't that the truth. . .sometimes I just wished that everyone would sit back, chill and say, "I guess in the end we'll know, no sense in trying to convince you before hand." To each their own. . .as long as we carry on intelligent conversations about religion and understand all aspects, why shove it down anyone's throats. ..in fact, why do it even when intelligent conversations aren't around?

[twyrch]

Ya know... as I was reading this thread, I was reminded of a couple songs. One called "If we are the body" by Casting Crowns....

It's crowded in worship today
As she slips in
trying to fade into the faces
the girls' teasing laughter is carrying farther than they know
farther than they know

CHORUS
But if we are the body
why arent His arms reaching
why arent His hands healing
why arent His words teaching
and if we are the body
why arent His feet going
why is His love not showing them there is a way
there is a way

A traveler is far away from home
he sheds his coat
and quietly sinks into the back row
the weight of their judgemental glances tell him that his chances
are better out on the road

CHORUS
But if we are the body
why arent His arms reaching
why arent His hands healing
why arent His words teaching
and if we are the body
why arent His feet going
why is His love not showing them there is a way

Jesus paid much too high a price
for us to pick and choose who should come
and we are the body of Christ

Chorus (2x)
If we are the body
why arent His arms reaching
why arent His hands healing
why arent His words teaching
and if we are the body
why arent His feet going
why is His love not showing them there is a way

Jesus is the way


And the other, "What if I stumble" by DC Talk...

[the greatest single cause of atheism in the world today
Is christians who acknowledge jesus with their lips
Then walk out the door and deny him by their lifestyle.
That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.]

What if I stumble?
What if I fall?

Is this one for the people?
Is this one for the lord?
Or do I simply serenade for things I must afford?
You can jumble them together, my conflict still remains
Holiness is calling, in the midst of courting fame

Cause I see the trust in their eyes
Though the sky is falling
They need your love in their lives
Compromise is calling

(chorus)
What if I stumble, what if I fall?
What if I lose my step and I make fools of us all?
Will the love continue when my walk becomes a crawl?
What if I stumble, and what if I fall?

What if I stumble, what if I fall?
You never turn in the heat of it all
What if I stumble, what if I fall?

Father please forgive me for I can not compose
The fear that lives within me
Or the rate at which it grows
If struggle has a purpose
On the narrow road you’ve carved
Why do I dread my trespasses will leave a deadly scar

Do they see the fear in my eyes?
Are they so revealing?
This time I cannot disguise
All the doubt I’m feeling

(repeat chorus)

What if I stumble?
Everyone’s got to crawl when you know that
You’re up against a wall, it’s about to fall
Everyone’s got to crawl when you know that (2x)

I hear you whispering my name [you say]
My love for you will never change [never change]

(repeat chorus 2x)

What if I stumble, what if I fall?
You never turn in the heat of it all
What if I stumble, what if I fall?
You are my comfort, and my god

Is this one for the people, is this one for the lord?