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Post by uisdean on Sept 9, 2007 19:37:09 GMT -5
Twyrch, I have not read Terry Brooks. I'll put him on my list.
In addition, there's the Austrailian Aborginial "Dreamtime." There's something to this "Otherworld" that is very interesting; but I think it's something one needs to be very careful about. It would not surprise me if it is the place where Daniel, Isaiah, John and others saw their visions, or at least a part of their visions.
For the Christian I think the access is through prayer: not that we should pray to go to this place, but that if we are permitted to go there, it would be through prayer. It's like being a martyr. Not something I would seek.
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Post by thegrimmsleeper on Jan 1, 2008 15:25:34 GMT -5
Just to add something new to an old discussion, the question regarding Llew's return to the manifest world... certainly the case can be made for Llew that he's "special" and whatnot, but the book's narrative suggests it was a combination of two things that enabled him to return "home" -- first, Goewyn, whose love, as Tegid points out, is keeping him bound and unable to continue on his journey. Secondly, there is the fact that Tegid performs the burial rite at the time-between-times, when Llew's body and "Lewis" are in the cairn. The bard basically sent his friend home, though I wonder if he knew what he was doing or if it was simply a fortunate side-effect of the burial rite.
Naturally one could argue that divine providence played a part and that it was always the intent of the Swift Sure Hand to allow Lewis to return home. But as in real life, oftentimes God uses the practical and temporal to accomplish His tasks. Goewyn's love and Tegid's right may simply have been the means to the Dagda's end, but they were nonetheless the "practical" explanation behind Lewis' return to the manifest world.
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Post by Treskillard on Jan 7, 2008 9:24:44 GMT -5
I've always wondered if Simon returned home. Obviously the series ends with the understanding that he did not, but if SRL ever wanted to create a new series based on The Song Of Albion, he certainly could bring Simon back, as nothing "final" was said about him in the manifest world. Maybe he'd just be an imp on the shoulder of some new villain!
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Post by thegrimmsleeper on Jan 7, 2008 13:25:10 GMT -5
True, he never came out and said "Simon is dead" but he's said often enough that Albion is "complete" and that he doesn't intend to revisit it, so it's probably a safe assumption that he's a goner. Lewis' return was legitimate in that his spirit was "sent" by Tegid to continue his journey. He didn't magically reappear after Llew died, he went through the motions that the laws of Lawhead's universe demand. Simon, on the other hand, had no such luxury. When the fires consumed Albion and Tir Aflan, it burned away all of the impurity -- Siawn was perhaps most impure being in the realm. There was no ritual, no saining rite, none of the stuff that sent Lewis home. So could Simon technically be alive in this world? Maybe. It could be explained away somehow. But I hope not. As great a villain as he was, he got what he deserved in the end and I wouldn't want to see that reversed. As dearly as I love Albion, I don't think I'd want a sequel, unless it was its own story far distant from what happened to Lewis. So on the off chance if Lawhead ever does continue the Albion saga, I would hope it would be a different take on the Otherworld. Still, he has said pretty much all there is to say about it. Albion is an archetypal story, which I think lends to is popularity. I don't know if you can pull that off with the same series twice. If anyone can it's SRL, but still... I tend to side with the author these days. It all began with the aurochs... that pretty much says it all.
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Post by Treskillard on Jan 8, 2008 8:52:49 GMT -5
Here here! I agree!
Although, it would be interesting to have a series on the founding of Albion, I think it would have to be far removed from Lewis' time there.
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Post by thegrimmsleeper on Jan 8, 2008 21:47:04 GMT -5
Yeah, an Albion-exclusive prequel would be interesting. Though we do catch a lot of back story through Tegid's ballads.
Another thing I always thought would be interesting would be stories set in the Otherworld on different continents -- like, say, the Otherworld equivalent of America or Europe or Asia. I've often wondered if Tir Aflan was meant to represent Europe or America, but either way it could be really interesting to see some of the history of other places besides Albion.
The fall of Tir Aflan would be neat, too.
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Post by Treskillard on Jan 9, 2008 8:51:25 GMT -5
I had wondered if Tir Aflan represented Ireland. Wasn't it an island near Ablion? But then, it could be anywhere.
Having a prequel on its fall *would* be interesting.
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Post by jamreads on May 30, 2009 15:48:28 GMT -5
I was wondering how Llew's dog's name is pronounced. I've tried to find it on the pronunciation guide, but I can't get any of them to work & I didn't see the name on the list any way. The dog's name is Twyrch (I hope I spelled that correctly).
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Post by ceridwen on Jun 1, 2009 10:49:28 GMT -5
I pronounce it "Twerk" -- w says "oo", yr says "er", and ch says "k". I think that's correct, based on the pronunciation guide in the books. You could always ask for the correct pronunciation at this page: www.stephenlawhead.com/extras/pronunciation.shtml
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Post by jamreads on Jun 2, 2009 12:08:12 GMT -5
I pronounce it "Twerk" -- w says "oo", yr says "er", and ch says "k". I think that's correct, based on the pronunciation guide in the books. You could always ask for the correct pronunciation at this page: www.stephenlawhead.com/extras/pronunciation.shtmlI don't have copies of the books with a pronunciation guide. I check the first editions from my library each summer to read them. I really should buy my own copies. I've tried to use the 'ask for a pronunciation' thing, but it always says the e-mail address it's sending to is invalid....
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