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Post by twyrch on Feb 16, 2005 11:57:13 GMT -5
Dinadan, in your "fashionable" response, I think you are describing the Band-Wagon Fallacy. Doing something because it is popular and the "in" thing...
Anyway... back on topic of Dream Thief. When I read it... I thought about Dune but not as much as I did Ransom in Out of the Silent Planet, by C.S. Lewis....
It seemed to take aspects of both....
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Post by dinadan on Feb 16, 2005 16:10:47 GMT -5
Welll, then, all the more reason for me to try to get ahold of a copy. It's a hard line for me to pick whether I like Leto II (from Dune) or Dr. Elwin Ransom better as a character.
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Post by deusXmachina on Feb 21, 2005 16:18:02 GMT -5
You know, I really prefer the new Dune books written by his son and KJA. IMHO, they are more entertaining that Frank Herberts originals, while keeping the spirit of them. But that's just me.
I picked up Dream Thief, but haven't had an oppurtunity to read it yet. I'm reading Byzantium, now.
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Post by twyrch on Feb 21, 2005 16:35:33 GMT -5
You know, I really prefer the new Dune books written by his son and KJA. IMHO, they are more entertaining that Frank Herberts originals, while keeping the spirit of them. But that's just me. I picked up Dream Thief, but haven't had an oppurtunity to read it yet. I'm reading Byzantium, now. Let us know what you think of both of them.... I'd be interested to know...
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Post by scothia on May 11, 2005 17:41:18 GMT -5
My only problem with DT is that the story seemed to run out of steam before the ending. Other than that, I found it quite enjoyable and imaginative, with traces of Perelandra and Stargate, two of my favorite SF tales (I'm not a huge fan of SF, but these caught my interest).
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Post by calixar on May 12, 2005 14:32:15 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I'll have to disagree with you there Calixar. As someone who has studied both Wicca and Druidry, I can tell you that although they have some differences, they compliment each other and the two groups do get along seemingly. Some are Druids and Wiccans... I'm not talking about the now. Modern Druids are poseurs who largelt have no idea what the real thing was about. What I mean is the practices of Wicca are based largely in the Saxon religious practices, which at the time of Arthur was the enemy. Thence, in the time MZB's novels take place, the "witches" and the Druids would not have been communing nicely. Druids carried swords and would have killed the priestesses of the enemy. She also fails to note that some of the first converts to Christianity in Britain were Druids. BVy the time of Arthur, the Druids were largely Christian. ----- Side note... when Lawhead wrote Dream Thief, there was no Stargate.
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Post by karenee on May 19, 2005 21:48:42 GMT -5
Dream Thief Sounds interesting. I'll have to find a copy.
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Post by Tegid on Jul 26, 2005 0:24:05 GMT -5
I just finished Dream Thief minutes ago. I haven't read all that much sci-fi in the past, so I can't say anything about the Dune comparisons that have been made here. I do indeed think the book and characterization compare well with Out of the Silent Planet. I didn't have the sense of things "running out of steam," and I was mildly amazed to realize, about 25 pages from the end, just how many loose ends there still were. One that I kept waiting for resolution on, to no avail, was some hint on how Hocking and Ortu's connection ever came about, and who Hocking even was ; I've got a small idea about the former, but nothing at all about the latter. It seems like those of you who have said you've read it did so a long time ago; if any of you would like to refresh your memory on this book and discuss this 'early' SRL book here, I'd love to hear what you have to say.
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Post by cree8ivone on Jul 26, 2005 8:40:28 GMT -5
Hey buddy!
I really liked Dream Thief. I'll have to dig my copy out and brush up on it. I would love to talk to you about it.
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Post by DanTheMan on Jul 26, 2005 9:42:07 GMT -5
I might start to reread it again, too. It wasn't my favorite SRL book, but it was worth reading.
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Post by karenee on Jul 28, 2005 10:51:49 GMT -5
I am reading "Dream Thief"! Hang on, Tegid. I'll tell you when I'm done.
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Post by Tegid on Jul 28, 2005 14:56:04 GMT -5
Oh, please don't wait till you're done! Let's start talking about it now as you go through the book! Impressions! Thoughts! Comments! Please!
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Post by karenee on Jul 28, 2005 20:20:15 GMT -5
Well, I'm done
It doesn't take long when I'm not distracted by life.
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Post by karenee on Jul 28, 2005 20:23:42 GMT -5
Hmmm... The connection thing? I assume it happened when Hocking hunted out Ortu based on legend, seeking great wisdom with which to do something... as most who go to seers do. It does mention something about Ortu being the one who gave Hocking his intelligence and long life.
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Post by DanTheMan on Jul 31, 2005 12:56:30 GMT -5
Well, I have read it before but I've started reading it again. It will go slowly for me, but I will begin to post comments as well. I am struck at how innocent Spencer is. He seems so naive about social things. He doesn't even seem to be aware of his own intelligence. I also wish now that the space station, or whatever, would be described even more. But that might bog down the story.
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