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Post by dinadan on Mar 26, 2005 11:20:17 GMT -5
Yeah, that's been a theory since the GoT first came out; it's not all that crazy--in fact, I halfway buy it. If it weren't for Ned Dayne's testimony to Arya about being Jon's milkbrother, I'd say that it was a theory that was almost too neatly tied up to be less than fact. But, remember the story that Meera and Jojen tell Bran about the tournament at Harrenhall during the year of the false spring--Ned (Stark) and Ashara Dayne obviously had something between them. Of course, how Rhaegar fits into that (as he surely must) I don't know.
However, it is A Song of Fire (Targaryen) and Ice (Starks). Clearly, it's with these two houses that the fate of the world resides--Bran/Jon and Daenerys.
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Post by Child of Immanuel on Apr 27, 2005 19:59:42 GMT -5
Another great fantasy author who proves that to be a great fantasy author you have to have at least one "R" middle initial. Let's give Lewis an honorary R. then! C. S. R. Lewis... it has a nice ring to it. ;D
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Post by twyrch on Apr 29, 2005 22:29:22 GMT -5
Let's give Lewis an honorary R. then! C. S. R. Lewis... it has a nice ring to it. ;D Customer Service Rep, Lewis?
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Post by Child of Immanuel on Apr 30, 2005 16:20:55 GMT -5
Even that sounds better than Clive Staples...
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Post by dinadan on May 1, 2005 7:51:05 GMT -5
You know, I've always wondered about the name Clive Staples. I mean, even for someone born firmly in the Victorian era, that's an odd name.
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Post by Inkling on May 3, 2005 11:41:59 GMT -5
It sounds like a new kind of Campbell's soup.....no wonder he wanted to be called Jack.
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Post by dinadan on May 9, 2005 19:58:57 GMT -5
So, all this talk of Martin stuff has made me decide to re-read books 1-3. I had forgotten how great GoT is.
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Post by JestersTear1 on May 10, 2005 6:21:36 GMT -5
Yeah - I think I'm going to have to re-read them soon too. I really enjoyed them last time. I think the gritty, bloody nature of them enhances the story (although I'm not entirely comfortable with the Cersei and Jaime scenario!).
I can't wait for the next book.
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Post by dinadan on May 10, 2005 6:29:24 GMT -5
Yeah - I think I'm going to have to re-read them soon too. I really enjoyed them last time. I think the gritty, bloody nature of them enhances the story (although I'm not entirely comfortable with the Cersei and Jaime scenario!). I can't wait for the next book. If you were entirely comfortable with that, I think there'd be something wrong with you (no offense). But from the standpoint of Jamie (i.e. "Hell, the Targaryens did it, why shouldn't we?") it's almost understandable in the narrative. I don't know, though...I liked the change in him in SoS.
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Post by Dred on May 10, 2005 7:59:48 GMT -5
I agree. He has changed quite a bit from the way he was first presented. I think there has been a lot of growth in some of the characters. Martin has really done a good job of expanding on the nature of his characters. Makes them seem much more human in that they have good and bad points.
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Post by laurelin on May 12, 2005 22:10:21 GMT -5
I really enjoyed reading Jaime's chapters. I actually had a discussion with a friend of mine about ASoiaF, and he didn't understand this; he was a bit deterred by the whole throwing Bran out the window thing (understandably) to appreciate the character.
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Post by dinadan on May 13, 2005 10:21:33 GMT -5
I really enjoyed reading Jaime's chapters. I actually had a discussion with a friend of mine about ASoiaF, and he didn't understand this; he was a bit deterred by the whole throwing Bran out the window thing (understandably) to appreciate the character. I think that the Jaime that survives the events of SoS is not the same man that threw Bran from the window in GoT. (I'm avoiding spoilers for CoI's sake).
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Post by Child of Immanuel on May 13, 2005 14:19:46 GMT -5
Oh, I finished a week or so ago. Have no fear, post what you wish!
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Post by dinadan on May 23, 2005 16:05:17 GMT -5
This is a speculation that's been running through my mind that I wonder if those of you familiar with the Ice and Fire series (that is, have read all the books) might mind commenting on.
It seems to me that the Children of the Forest, with their reverence to the old gods, their slight stature, their preference for "light" armor, might be related to the Crannogmen of Greywater Watch and House Reed. I'm re-reading the series, and I've noticed just how much there seems to be some connections (Jojen and the greenseers, Howland Reed's boyhood trip to the Isle of Faces). Anybody else have some thoughts on this?
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Post by amodman on May 24, 2005 20:58:56 GMT -5
This is a speculation that's been running through my mind that I wonder if those of you familiar with the Ice and Fire series (that is, have read all the books) might mind commenting on. It seems to me that the Children of the Forest, with their reverence to the old gods, their slight stature, their preference for "light" armor, might be related to the Crannogmen of Greywater Watch and House Reed. I'm re-reading the series, and I've noticed just how much there seems to be some connections (Jojen and the greenseers, Howland Reed's boyhood trip to the Isle of Faces). Anybody else have some thoughts on this? I rather thought that was pretty obvious, myself. That while not children of the forset, it seems the Crannogmen have a lot in common and may have some blood of the people.
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